Head to head

CJC-1295 without DAC vs DSIP

GH secretagogueNootropic

A comparison decided mostly by evidence: DSIP has been studied in people to a degree the other has not.

Verdict

DSIP rests on firmer evidence

If your priority is the compound with the strongest published support, that is DSIP. CJC-1295 without DAC is not therefore worse — it is less examined, which is a different thing — but the gap is the single most defensible difference on this page, and it is the one most comparisons quietly skip.

What you are actually choosing between

These sit in different classes. CJC-1295 without DAC is a growth hormone secretagogue; DSIP is a nootropic. They get compared because of where they overlap, not because they are interchangeable.

The overlap is recovery and sleep. On this site's goal weighting — an editorial priority score, not a measure of effect size — CJC-1295 without DAC rates 4/5 for recovery and sleep and DSIP rates 4/5. Outside that overlap only CJC-1295 without DAC goes further, carrying weight for injury repair and muscle growth; DSIP's declared goals stop at the overlap.

The evidence

This is the part that decides most of it. DSIP has some human data, but it is small, old, or uncontrolled — the controlled work is a handful of small studies from decades ago. CJC-1295 without DAC has no controlled human data at all, so the numbers here come from practice, not a label — the closest approved comparators are sermorelin and tesamorelin. That gap is the headline, and it is a statement about the literature rather than a promise about you: a compound with trial data can still do nothing for your case, and one without it is unproven rather than disproven.

How they differ in practice

CJC-1295 without DAC is a subcutaneous injection; DSIP is a subcutaneous injection and an intramuscular injection. Both are injected, so route does not decide this one.

CJC-1295 without DAC has a characterized half-life of 30 min; DSIP does not have one published here at all. That asymmetry is worth more than it looks — it usually tracks how much formal pharmacology has been done on a compound.

Committed time differs: CJC-1295 without DAC runs 12 weeks, DSIP runs 4 weeks.

Risk and difficulty

The contraindication lists are not the same: CJC-1295 without DAC flags active malignancy, which DSIP does not. If any of those describe you they remove a compound from consideration outright, regardless of everything above.

Source notes

What the evidence actually says

Verbatim, so you can check the verdict above against what it was built from.

CJC-1295 without DAC (Mod GRF 1-29)

Tetra-substituted GHRH (1-29) with no Drug Affinity Complex, so it clears in roughly 30 minutes and produces a single discrete GH pulse. That short half-life is the whole point: it is dosed once to three times daily, typically around 100 mcg (roughly 1-2 mcg/kg, a saturating pulse dose) on an empty stomach, and is paired with a ghrelin agonist such as ipamorelin. It is NOT an approved medicine; the closest approved comparators are sermorelin and tesamorelin. Consumer supply is research-chemical grade and dosing convention comes from practice, not from a label.

DSIP (Delta Sleep-Inducing Peptide)

DSIP is a nine-amino-acid peptide isolated in the 1970s by Monnier, Schoenenberger and colleagues from the cerebral venous blood of rabbits in electrically induced delta-wave sleep, which is where the name comes from. It is not approved anywhere and has no modern development program. The human evidence is old, small and sparse, and it does not show what the name implies. The controlled work is a handful of studies from roughly 1977 to the early 1990s, mostly with a few dozen subjects at most, and the effects on sleep architecture were modest and inconsistent between groups. Some of the more repeatable findings were not in insomnia at all but in chronic pain and in opiate and alcohol withdrawal. DSIP is not a sedative and does not behave like one: it does not reliably knock anyone out, and whether an injected dose crosses the blood-brain barrier intact in meaningful quantity is still disputed. Treat any claim of a strong hypnotic effect as unsupported. On dosing, the classic human studies gave roughly 25 nmol/kg intravenously - about 1.5 mg for a 70 kg adult - which is both a different route and a much larger amount than anyone injects subcutaneously today. That figure has deliberately NOT been used to set the ceiling here. The 100-500 mcg subcutaneous range with a typical dose around 200 mcg reflects contemporary community practice, taken shortly before bed; there is no trial behind that range, and no dose-response curve exists for this route. Plasma half-life is reported in minutes, so no hourly figure is listed. The four-week cycle length is convention rather than evidence - no study has run long enough to establish a course length, and nothing is known about tolerance or long-term use.

Side by side

The numbers

CJC-1295 without DAC compared with DSIP
AttributeCJC-1295 without DACDSIP
ClassGH secretagogueNootropic
RoutesSubcutaneousSubcutaneous, Intramuscular
Dose range100 mcg–300 mcg (typical 100 mcg)100 mcg–500 mcg (typical 200 mcg)
FrequencyOnce dailyOnce daily
Half-life30 minNot characterized
Cycle length12 weeks4 weeks
ExperienceIntermediateIntermediate
EvidencePractice-derived onlyLimited human data
Contraindications
  • Pregnant / nursing
  • Active malignancy
  • Under 18
  • Pregnant / nursing
  • Under 18
Side effects
  • Injection site redness, itching or a short-lived welt
  • Head rush, flushing or warmth in the minutes after injection
  • Mild water retention
  • Tingling or numbness in the hands
  • Drowsiness when dosed pre-bed
  • Injection site stinging or redness
  • Morning grogginess or a hungover, heavy feeling on waking
  • Vivid or unusually intense dreams
  • Headache
  • Dizziness or a brief drop in blood pressure shortly after injecting
  • Paradoxical alerting - a minority of users report harder, not easier, sleep onset
  • Transient flu-like malaise in the first few doses

Turn a typical dose into a mark on the syringe: CJC-1295 without DACDSIP

Goals

Where they overlap, and where they do not

GoalCJC-1295 without DACDSIP
recovery and sleep
CJC-1295 without DAC: 4/5
DSIP: 4/5
injury repairone only
CJC-1295 without DAC: 3/5
DSIP:
muscle growthone only
CJC-1295 without DAC: 3/5
DSIP:
fat lossone only
CJC-1295 without DAC: 2/5
DSIP:
longevityone only
CJC-1295 without DAC: 2/5
DSIP:

They overlap on 1 goal and diverge on 4. Weights are this site’s editorial priority score out of 5 — how central a goal is to why people use a compound. They are not effect sizes and two 5s do not mean two equal results.

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